tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post5012977278718358542..comments2023-09-08T00:47:50.511-07:00Comments on Naked Reflections: Why Shouldn't There be Something Rather Than Nothing?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post-60895219588115532312010-12-27T10:22:53.457-08:002010-12-27T10:22:53.457-08:00Tom--
I guess I find the "base universe"...Tom--<br />I guess I find the "base universe" idea more plausible than one in which the universe originated from absolute nothingness during a "First Moment." Of course, that could change after I become more conversant with quantum theoretical speculations on how there might, indeed, have been a "First Moment" in which the most elementary constituents of the universe sprang into existence out of sheer nothingness.<br /><br />In any case, I don't see how "life" could have always existed. It seems to me that life, and, especially, life with anything approaching what I am comfortable calling "consciousness," had to have evolved out of simpler organizations of matter and energy. <br /><br />Yet, this seems to contradict ancient and modern religious and philosophical--e.g., Wilberian-- notions of the so-called "physical" universe being an "involution" of pure consciousness a la Brahman. I just can't fathom, at present, how this notion could be true. Yet, if it isn't true, it seems that the Wilberian integral model essentially collapses.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post-66139936078036787962010-12-27T09:58:24.607-08:002010-12-27T09:58:24.607-08:00I'm not positing a divine Creator -- since ...I'm not positing a divine Creator -- since 'creates' a whole host of complications, including the one of Who created the Creator? and where did He come from?<br /><br />I'm looking toward a First Moment. And, if there is not one of those, the "base universe" or something else that was primary, before the icing of 'life' reared its hoary head and growled. [Or, are you saying that there has always been 'life'!!?]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13718601770472939313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post-65610679305974287142010-12-27T09:50:57.120-08:002010-12-27T09:50:57.120-08:00Tom--
I wonder if Occam's Razor truly cuts the...Tom--<br />I wonder if Occam's Razor truly cuts the way you suggest. That is, is the simplest plausible explanation of the origin of the universe that it came from absolute nothingness, with the creative help, perhaps, of a divine being that eternally exists, or is it actually simpler to suppose that the universe always existed and that no inexplicable divine being was a necessary factor in its existence?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02549770321948541384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post-2669672257774989582010-12-26T13:03:11.607-08:002010-12-26T13:03:11.607-08:00The fact that there is something (now) rather than...The fact that there is something (now) rather than an inviolable nothingness is a testiment to the sentiment in your blogpost. Still, I am fully uncomfortable with this circumstance.<br /><br />Occam's Razor ought to 'cut' here re the most magnitudinous determination what am. An inviolate nothingness is the simplest and easiest to justify and explain base circumstance. And yet, here we and tons of stuff are. It's as if the universe was founded and run by a corporation: Acme Enterprizes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13718601770472939313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10032287.post-81103299518788249272010-12-13T16:48:29.020-08:002010-12-13T16:48:29.020-08:00You are very perceptive. The state of "nothin...You are very perceptive. The state of "nothing" is unstable. Something can also come from nothing since the total energy in the universe sums to nothing. Gravity is negative energy and mass, light, motion are positive energy. When the calculation is done, it turns out that the negative gravitational energy is balanced by the positive energy in the universe resulting in a sum of zero total energy. Read "The Self-Generating Universe" for the details including the math.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com